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Mort Bakaprevski		#21	[-]
Posts: 5600 Aug 27 11 2:18 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	King Of Jazz wrote: Really? I thought Mr. Hanke would be a cool cat with it. Mr. Hanke moves in strange & mysterious ways!! Arlene, I'm sorely disappointed!!
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Maleva		#22	[-]
Posts: 12429 Aug 27 11 4:55 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Alas, the only time I could tolerate Torme was when he was singing with Judy Garland. He so obviously adored her, I cut him a break. You say "Wicked" , like it's a bad thing.
Ken Hanke		#23	[-]
Posts: 71414 Aug 27 11 5:53 PM Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Maleva wrote: He so obviously adored her, I cut him a break. I never knew he was gay!
Mort Bakaprevski		#24	[-]
Posts: 5600 Aug 27 11 7:45 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Actually, wouldn't bet on Mel's "adoration" of Ms. Garland. He wrote a whole book detailing his disatisfaction with working with her. And..... with the attached recording, you wouldn't really get that much solo work from Mr. Torme (about 8 bars). It's 90% the Mel-Tones (including Ginny O'Connor). However, since he wrote the vocal arrangement, you might not care for them either. The Mel-Tones were something revolutionary in terms of vocal harmony & influenced so many groups that followed.... including The Four Freshmen, The Hi-Lo's and The Beach Boys.
Maleva		#25	[-]
Posts: 12429 Aug 27 11 7:47 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You'd have to consult with his ex-wives. But he did seem to love Judy. Just sayin'. You say "Wicked" , like it's a bad thing.
Ken Hanke		#26	[-]
Posts: 71414 Aug 27 11 7:59 PM Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Mort Bakaprevski wrote: The Mel-Tones were something revolutionary in terms of vocal harmony & influenced so many groups that followed.... including The Four Freshmen, The Hi-Lo's and The Beach Boys. But is that a good thing?
Mort Bakaprevski		#27	[-]
Posts: 5600 Aug 27 11 8:24 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	ABSOLUTELY!! My brain obviously had a senior-hour up above. Ginny O'Connor was her maiden name. Her married name was Ginny Mancini!
Maleva		#28	[-]
Posts: 12429 Aug 27 11 8:45 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Read Mel Torme's book? Life is entirely too short. You say "Wicked" , like it's a bad thing.
Mort Bakaprevski		#29	[-]
Posts: 5600 Aug 28 11 12:32 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Haven't read his tome on Ms. Garland, BUT have read (& re-read portions numerous times) his auto-biography. Fascinating look into show-biz and, particularly the musical portion of it covering 7 decades. Arlene, I honestly think you'd enjoy it!!
Ken Hanke		#30	[-]
Posts: 71414 Aug 28 11 7:29 AM Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Mort Bakaprevski wrote: ABSOLUTELY!! Debatable.
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Mort Bakaprevski		#31	[-]
Posts: 5600 Aug 30 11 11:55 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Only by the uninformed!
Ken Hanke		#32	[-]
Posts: 71414 Aug 30 11 12:24 PM Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	How can a taste (or lack thereof) for the Beach Boys, etc. be a case of informed or uninformed? It either appeals to you or it doesn't.
Mort Bakaprevski		#33	[-]
Posts: 5600 Aug 30 11 8:02 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Of course! BUT, whether a work by an artist appeals to you or not (OR whether it appeals to me or not) really has nothing to do with the craftsmanship or artistry the artist displayed in creating said work!!
Ken Hanke		#34	[-]
Posts: 71414 Aug 31 11 1:00 AM Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Oh, I think it does, but not everything that is good -- regardless of artistry or craftsmanship -- is going to appeal to everyone. I am given to understand that Mozart is the bee's knees. You can have him and the rest of the bee, too, so far as I'm concerned. I'm sure it's very fine, but it doesn't resonate with me at all -- with a few exceptions.
Mort Bakaprevski		#35	[-]
Posts: 5600 Aug 31 11 2:00 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ken Hanke wrote: .... but not everything that is good -- regardless of artistry or craftsmanship -- is going to appeal to everyone. Uhhhhhhhh, well, gee, I thought that was the point I was trying to make!!
Ken Hanke		#36	[-]
Posts: 71414 Aug 31 11 11:09 AM Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	My point is that I think you overstate it, i.e., artistry and craftsmanship are factors, but not the only ones.
Mort Bakaprevski		#37	[-]
Posts: 5600 Aug 31 11 4:18 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Surely, Cranky Hanke is not suggesting that popular acceptance is as important as craft & art??? Oh, I get it. It's actually Mr. Hanke's acceptance.... which, of course, is MORE important than the craft & art involved!!!
Ken Hanke		#38	[-]
Posts: 71414 Aug 31 11 4:56 PM Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Well, yes.
Mort Bakaprevski		#39	[-]
Posts: 5600 Aug 31 11 8:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ahhhhhh, now that's the Ken Hanke we know & love!!
Ken Hanke		#40	[-]
Posts: 71414 Aug 31 11 8:22 PM Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I figured that would satisfy you.
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