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THE 8TH VOYAGE OF SINBAD
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Posts: 48073 (01/05/09 02:05 PM) Administrator |
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Posts: 220 (01/05/09 07:57 PM) |
I don't speak Klingon and i'm not a fan of Harryhausen, but in all fairness John said he'd rather watch JATA than CITIZEN KANE. As much as i
respect Orson Welles in general and CK in specific, it doesn't get played very often in my house. I'm more likely to throw on VOODOO MAN or some other
PovRow fun.
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Ken Hanke |
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Posts: 48078 (01/05/09 08:03 PM) Administrator |
Well, yeah, but that's VOODOO MAN.
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Maleva |
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Posts: 7076 (01/06/09 01:20 AM) |
<<<<There are times I feel I belong on genre sites like this and other times like I feel I just wandered into a Star Trek convention and realized
I'm the only person that can't speak Klingon. >>>
I doubt any of us speak Klingon. And I will unabashedly mention that ever time I watch KANE, Ii am drawn in and astonished yet again. And catch something I didn't see in the previous 50 or so viewings.
You say "Wicked" , like it's a bad thing.
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Posts: 1402 (01/06/09 01:37 AM) |
True, Kerwin M. and Patrick W. don't seem very Arabian (I bought the 3 Sinbad's used from Amazon recently, in part to see if Wayne was as bad (and as
hunky) as I recalled from my youth. Yep on both counts.
Still, I think John Phillip Law gives as very Arabian Sinbad, esp. with all that talk about "Trust in Allah, but tie up your camel." |
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David Morrill |
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Posts: 12381 (01/06/09 07:34 AM) |
They don't teach Don Chaffey in college film classes?!
Speaking of which, it must have been a weird thing to direct Harryhausen movies and realize that no one would care who the director was. Mention a Harryhausen film and see how many people can name the director. |
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Ken Hanke |
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Posts: 48085 (01/06/09 09:21 AM) Administrator |
David Morrill wrote:Shocking, is it not? |
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The Right Honourable Bill Maynard |
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Posts: 1273 (01/06/09 11:32 AM) |
David brings up an interesting point. I'm sure Jane Seymour's first reaction upon being offered SINBAD AND THE EYE OF THE TIGER wasn't "Well
if Sam Wanamaker is directing, I'm there." The films were built around Harryhausen's Dynamation process and the cast are usually just something
pretty to look at in between set pieces. That said, why doesn't the same apply to today's directors with an abundance of CGI work? No one says, well
what did Lucas/Spielberg/Peter Jackson/Sam Raimi etc. really do, it's the CGI that matters. Somehow its accepted that the directors control the CGI in ways
that Don Chaffey or Gordon Hessler didn't with Dynamation.
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David Morrill |
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Posts: 12382 (01/06/09 01:14 PM) |
> Somehow its accepted that the directors control the CGI in ways that Don Chaffey or Gordon Hessler didn't with Dynamation.
I suspect it has something to do with the sweatshop anonymity of the hundreds (seemingly thousands) of digital effects techies (digital paint artists, compositors, etc.) with unpronounceable Iron Curtain names who toil on each movie. Unlike a Harryhausen film, which really *is* the work of one man, one artist, one visual creator, it's hard to pin down who's in charge visually of most modern CGI-fests. Small countries of faceless people are involved in one way or another. |
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Posts: 48089 (01/06/09 01:36 PM) Administrator |
There's something to that -- and I remember wondering about his "unique vision" when whoever edited RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK thanked Spielberg for
"giving him so much wonderful footage to work with," suggesting that Spielberg wasn't part of that rather important part of the process -- but I
think you can take the idea too far too easily. There's got to be some reason why guys like Guillermo del Toro or even Frank Miller put out movies have a
consistent look to them while working with a variety of technicians and different effects houses all over the place.
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David Morrill |
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Posts: 12384 (01/06/09 01:47 PM) |
Well, I think certain house styles and palettes are shared among the different groups.
Most films today aren't shot so much as they are programmed. |
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Posts: 48091 (01/06/09 02:12 PM) Administrator |
That completely misses my point, which is that films from del Toro all look pretty much the same regardless of the technicians behind the effects work, which
suggests that the effects are as directed by him as the rest of the film.
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Posts: 1034 (01/06/09 05:04 PM) |
The Right Honourable Bill Maynard wrote:I detest Star Trek, so you wouldn't catch me at one of their conventions. But, why isn't it okay to prefer any film to Citizen Kane? I find it difficult to believe (or take seriously), anyone who is that much of a film snob!
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That fat girl's not competition! White trash plain and simple! For all we know she could be high yellow. |
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The Right Honourable Bill Maynard |
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Posts: 1274 (01/06/09 05:14 PM) |
Aw don't take it so hard, John. I may be a snob, but I was just trying to have fun.
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David Morrill |
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Posts: 12385 (01/06/09 05:31 PM) |
Bill, you're not a snob; you're a good guy.
Me, I'M a snob. |
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johnmm001 |
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Posts: 1036 (01/06/09 05:35 PM) |
Well, thanks for the clarification. And thanks for not being a snob!
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The Right Honourable Bill Maynard |
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Posts: 1275 (01/06/09 10:56 PM) |
Well, David has every right to be. He is superior to the rest of us. Its the height and the eyebrows, you know.
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Ken Hanke |
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Posts: 48100 (01/07/09 11:32 AM) Administrator |
Well, I'm not a snob, but I am an elitist bastard.
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King Of Jazz |
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Posts: 5638 (01/07/09 01:33 PM) |
You sure as hell are, though less the elitist.
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Ken Hanke |
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Posts: 48105 (01/07/09 03:52 PM) Administrator |
Yes, well, mere mortals can't aspire to the elitism involved in being keeper of the flame for El Brendel.
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