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Richard Valley	Re: Isn't Hate & Prejudice Wonderful?	#21	[-]
Posts: 54081 Mar 30 02 6:47 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	>>The more we all question the status quo -- and preferably within hearing range of those not inclined to do the questioning themselves -- the better off we will all be.<< If you'll allow me a short prideful moment, Scarlet Street's been doing that for almost 11 years, now . . .
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George Kaplan	Re: Isn't Hate & Prejudice Wonderful?	#22	[-]
Posts: 433 Mar 30 02 9:28 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You may even take a long prideful moment. You guys deserve it.
Richard Valley	Re: Isn't Hate & Prejudice Wonderful?	#23	[-]
Posts: 54081 Mar 31 02 4:48 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Aw, shucks . . .
Ron Morgan	Re: Isn't Hate & Prejudice Wonderful?	#24	[-]
Posts: 2022 Mar 31 02 8:27 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	>>The nay-sayers can't even stand it that Scarlet Street is gay-INCLUSIVE.<< I think it bothers some people more that it is INCLUSIVE and not EXCLUSIVE. If it were only gay themed content, they could just ignore it. Covering both gay and straight subjects with equal respect and intelligence, must REALLY irk people who exhibit either plain or candy-coated homophobia.
Richard Valley	Re: Isn't Hate & Prejudice Wonderful?	#25	[-]
Posts: 54081 Mar 31 02 9:53 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	An excellent point, Ron. Hadn't considered that . . .
Tim Fox	Re: Isn't Hate & Prejudice Wonderful?	#26	[-]
Posts: 352 Apr 1 02 3:52 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	A recent article in the Buffalo News had film critic Jeff Simon reporting on his own internal homophobia, even though he would tell you that he is a liberal with a capital L (By the way, Mr. Simon never misses a chance in his film reviews to let you know whom he considers to be a bodacious babe). Seemed his daughter brought home some gay friends and Simon caught two of them doing a little necking the next morning. Simon's reaction was to tell them "to ease up, gentlemen" and then wondered if he would have told a straight couple the same thing. The fact is that many people who would otherwise support gay rights want us to be invisible when it comes to any sign of what they consider to be overt sexuality (which could simply be holding hands or a modest kiss). This is reinforced by what little progress has been made in the movies and on television with gay characters. It is all right to include them, but God forbid that they should have any type of sex life. And the welcome that SCARLET STREET has given to any one who is inclined to present an intelligent and thoughtful view of the world is refreshing (even when Richard doesnt't like the topic -see To Shave or Not to Shave). Thanks, gentle people!
RobinTamblyn	To Be or Not To Be ("Openly" Gay...)	#27	[-]
Posts: 613 Apr 12 02 3:09 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Here's one for ya double-standard afficionados! During the recent shall-we-or-shall-we-not-scrap-Clause-28 debates in a British newspaper, one of the columnists wrote a pretty impassioned article in favour of keeping the clause (it prevents "promotion of homosexuality" in schools). His main argument was that gay people shouldn't go round "announcing" their sexuality proudly to all and sundry, but that it was a private matter and that most people really didn't want to know that those sharp dressers next door were a couple. Okay. Except that this was the same paper that in the run-up to the Oscars constantly described one of the nominees as "openly gay actor Ian McKellen." Now, given that most of the country are aware that McKellen is gay, is it really necessary to mention this fact in every article written about him? I don't remember any papers describing Tom Wilkinson as "openly straight."
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Brian Norliss	Re: To Be or Not To Be ("Openly" Gay...)	#28	[-]
Posts: 2737 Apr 12 02 11:01 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	>>His main argument was that gay people shouldn't go round "announcing" their sexuality proudly to all and sundry>> Well, he's going to have to learn to live with it, isn't he?
Richard Valley	SCARLET STREET for SALE	#29	[-]
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veingloree	Re: SCARLET STREET for SALE	#30	[-]
Posts: 11 Jul 23 03 2:04 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	re: "I can't quite figure out why it would be in a straight woman's interest to turn men gay." (Slightly tongue in cheek) Type 'slash fiction' into google and you'll find that theres a fair number of woman who really appreciate gay men and wouldn't mind an increase in numbers...
Adam Isaac	Re: SCARLET STREET for SALE	#31	[-]
Posts: 205 Feb 24 06 5:58 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Not really ran into an issue with the gay/straight thing. I've got gay family members, and though much of my family is Christian based in morals; nobody's ever got into a culture war over someone's sexual preference. Even before Brokeback came out, I started writing a gay couple into one of my scripts. It's an expose on what unfaithfulness can do to three uniquely different couples. Different races, different sexual preference, and varying personality (dis)functions all have there own little subtexs. But the essential subtext is from within each character's personal struggle or flaw effecting the relationships. Flaws that may or may not affect the couple for better or for worse. It's a story about love-not a love story-and what it really means to love someone-not just say it. It's an interesting study. So after all my rambling, my point is the subtext of humanity is often a retraction on exactly who that person is. Making characters people, rather than names on a page or in a movie, seems to reflect the all-time great folly of man: power by way of partialism(his or her's inner person speaking). Hate and predjudice are both particular to humans, and that's a fact of life. Whichever character I'm writing has his/her own problems, values and opinions, thus affecting what actions they may or may not take in their personal agendas. No agenda here. Pity, because I know/work with many types of movie people.....each one has their own motifs in their delivery. There's racists and bigots out there in this biz(movies and people), but they will sell your pain and your anger for a buck, just so they can make ten. Sad and true. Who wants a drink? ---------------- "There's no sacrifice too great for a chance at immortality."
Richard Valley	Re: SCARLET STREET for SALE	#32	[-]
Posts: 54081 Feb 25 06 3:16 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Gif me a visky . . .
CadetGrey	Re: SCARLET STREET for SALE	#33	[-]
Posts: 2306 Feb 25 06 11:23 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	... ginger ale on the side. And don't be stingy, baby.
Adam Isaac	Re: SCARLET STREET for SALE	#34	[-]
Posts: 205 Feb 28 06 2:14 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	---------------- "There's no sacrifice too great for a chance at immortality."
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